[CASL-L] Reading online vs. reading on paper vis a vis the students we see in the library

Church, Jackie jchurch at hamden.org
Mon Mar 11 06:03:41 PDT 2013


re: Reading a webpage

I don't believe in hoarding good sources. :- )

I found this website with a brief video (which I believe was done by Google's Matt Cutts)
 called How to Read a Web Page   http://www.gcflearnfree.org/searchbetter/module/3.

I inject the non-fiction/research reading strategies of scanning, skimming and reading (thorough, focused reading), which totally applies to reading webpages.The features and structures of non-fiction and webpages are identical or very similar. (The Common Core at work!)

The webpage is part of a larger site http://www.gcflearnfree.org/searchbetter.

Like others, I think the hard part is getting many students to focus and attend to the reading, and that the stamina as well as the skill needs to be built gradually though the grades.



Jackie Church
Library/Media Specialist
Spring Glen School
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I think that you are right, that reading online is a major challenge for students. And though we see it coming, we don't get much time to teach this new literacy to students. However, I think that part of the problem with what we see on a daily basis is the lack of conformity of the web and various databases. It is much harder for students to focus on text in Internet format. Students who currently take the MIST CMT online have an experience that will be similar to the SBAC testing. The screen is very simple. There is only the text that they have to read;  no distractions such as menu bars or advertisements.  I think this will improve their ability to read on the screen. That being said, we are working hard here to shift from highlighting to annotating as one of our research strategies. Though many of my middle schoolers annotation are superfluous, what we are forcing them to do is interact with the text in a way that we can see!

Shannon McNeice
Sedgwick Middle School



On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Juliann T. Moskowitz <juliann14 at hotmail.com<javascript:_e({},%20'cvml',%20'juliann14 at hotmail.com');>> wrote:
I have seen indiscriminate printing as well. If students are allowed unlimited printing then they have no reason to limit what they print. It's much easier to do the research in the library and then go back at their leisure and read through whatever they printed out to see if it contains any good information. But, I also agree with the original poster that students don't really like to take the time to read for information and would prefer that you just tell them what's in the article. I don't think that necessarily means that they are not capable of finding the information, just that they re lazy.

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Interesting point?!

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My experience has been that my students skip step 4 (use of information) in the Big Six Skills when they immediately print out what they find online without even reading it first to see if it is truly relevant. I see this also when I work one-on-one with my students. They ask ME what the article is about and I have to break the news to them that they will actually have to read it to find out for themselves what the article is about.

The new Common Core assessments in 46 states and the District of Columbia will all be computer-based. According to a memo from the NY State Education Department to all principals and superintendents, "The transition to computer-based testing will place New York at the forefront of innovative, 21st -century assessment design and delivery. For students, the benefits include using technology to better demonstrate what they know and are able to do" (http://www.p12.nysed.gov/nonpub/documents/transition_strategy_to_computer_based_testing.pdf).

This is my concern about Computer Based Testing: If you look at Smarter Balanced's (one of the testing consortia designing the new CC assesments) sample test items, for example at: http://sampleitems.smarterbalanced.org/itempreview/sbac/ELA.htm, you will see that students will have to read a longish 9-paragraph text and then answer questions based on the text. (The sample for Grade 3 is pretty longish as well). I'm not sure our students have the stamina to read that much text online because this is not what I see in the library. Students nearly always prefer to print out online text to read later.

Do you see the same thing in your library and do you think your students will sit through and read so much text online? The test for High Schoolers for example will be 140 minutes long. Will students truly benefit from Computer Based Testing and be able to "better demonstrate what they know and are able to do?" for if this is the case, we need to disable printing in the library to force students to take notes on what they read on the screen NOW so that they are prepared to do this in 2014-2015.

Does anybody else see this as a potential issue?


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The new power is not money in the hands of a few, but information in the hands of the many. - John Naisbitt, Megatrends

The Internet may be the world's greatest library, but let's face it - all the books are scattered on the floor.  - D.C. Denison, Boston Globe

Getting information off the Internet is like taking a drink from a fire hydrant. - Mitchell Kapor

To save man from the morass of propaganda, in my opinion, is one of the chief aims of education. Education must enable one to sift and weigh evidence, to discern the true from the false, the real from the unreal, and the facts from the fiction ... The function of education, therefore, is to teach one to think intensively and to think critically. - Martin Luther King, Jr. The Purpose of Education

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