[CASL-L] research/citation tools--what is your school using?
Rocca, Jennifer
roccaj at brookfieldps.org
Thu Jan 14 09:38:14 PST 2016
That screen is one of my biggest concerns about the program. It says it's
credible but it doesn't say why. Why is this article balanced? How are
they making the determination that this is true for this specific article.
My concern is that this screen means students are not practicing the skill
of determining if the source has authority. They are just trusting what
EasyBib says- right or wrong.
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Fiorelli, Dawn <
fiorellid at madison.k12.ct.us> wrote:
> For any of you who tried Scholar, does it offer this info on the
> screenshot below? This is the crux of what I need it to do! At 7th and 8
> th grade I focus the kids on the top 3 “criteria” and it’s been a really
> good tool to help them develop this thinking skill.
>
>
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> I need it to do this? Does it?
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> Dawn Fiorelli
>
> Library Media Specialist
> Polson Middle School
>
> Madison, CT
>
>
>
> *From:* Tracy Earnshaw [mailto:tearnshaw at rsd13.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 13, 2016 1:12 PM
> *To:* Fiorelli, Dawn
> *Cc:* Kathy McNeiece; Sue Lantelme; Mrs. Rocca; casl-l at mylist.net;
> Church, Jackie; Valerie DiLorenzo
> *Subject:* Re: [CASL-L] research/citation tools--what is your school
> using?
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> At the risk of sticking my neck out, I must say that since this discussion
> started, I took a look at Scholar and I really like it! I feel like it is
> a new and improved EasyBib. Of course we have to teach the students to use
> it correctly, but it's the tool I would use if I had to do my own research
> assignment. I love the way it makes notecards from what you highlight
> using the pop-up box in the top right corner. If you haven't tried it
> yourself, I would recommend you do.
>
>
>
> Tracy Earnshaw
>
> Coginchaug Regional High School
>
> Durham, CT
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Fiorelli, Dawn <
> fiorellid at madison.k12.ct.us> wrote:
>
> I exchanged several emails with Easybib last year when I learned they were
> sunsetting Easybib School Edition. I’ve been a loyal, happy subscription
> user for years and I depend on it as a teaching tool for my 7th and 8th
> graders. I’ve begged them to consider keeping a school edition as an
> option for users who did not want Scholar. I wonder if hearing from so
> many of you who will not be upgrading to Scholar would help them reconsider
> their business choices.
>
>
>
> Dawn Fiorelli
>
> Library Media Specialist
>
> Polson Middle School
> Madison, CT
>
>
>
> *From:* CASL-L [mailto:casl-l-bounces+fiorellid=
> madison.k12.ct.us at mylist.net] *On Behalf Of *Kathy McNeiece
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2016 2:32 PM
> *To:* Sue Lantelme
> *Cc:* Mrs. Rocca; casl-l at mylist.net; Church, Jackie; Valerie DiLorenzo
> *Subject:* Re: [CASL-L] research/citation tools--what is your school
> using?
>
>
>
> This is great! We use EasyBib but will most likely not renew for next
> year. We trialed Scholar but I thought it was too much work on the teacher
> end to set up assignments, and those tools would never get used. I like
> hearing how NoodleTools make students think more about creating their
> citations. I just could never get students to go back and complete those
> empty boxes. I was thinking of not going with a specific tool but after
> hearing others discuss the usefulness of these tools in preparing for
> college- will reconsider.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kathy McNeiece
>
> Head Librarian
>
> Hamden Hall Country Day School
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Sue Lantelme <SLantelme at ledyard.net>
> wrote:
>
> I couldn't agree more with all the Noodletools comments. We just switched
> after a couple of years with Easybib. The new interface which will come to
> us in Fall 2016 has taken care of many small annoying pieces. They even
> asked about making the change mid year (over the holiday break) and enough
> users were using the tool mid year they moved the change to end of school
> year, causing less disruption. If you're considering the purchase & can
> wait till Fall 2016, I'd recommend waiting.
>
> I think the biggest plus is the School Librarian, Deb Abilock & her son
> created the tool, enough said!
>
> Happy New Year!
>
>
>
> Sue Lantelme
>
> MLS, Ledyard High School Librarian
>
> slantelme at ledyard.net
>
> *http://lhs.ledyard.libguides.com/home
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>
> 860.464.9600 x6154
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* CASL-L <casl-l-bounces at mylist.net> on behalf of Church, Jackie <
> jchurch at hamden.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2016 8:26 AM
> *To:* Mrs. Rocca; Valerie DiLorenzo
> *Cc:* casl-l at mylist.net
> *Subject:* Re: [CASL-L] research/citation tools--what is your school
> using?
>
>
>
>
> Interesting reasoning.
>
> I hope LMSs continue to respond, and add what they like and dislike about
> Noodletools.
>
> Jackie Church
> Spring Glen School
> Hamden, CT
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* CASL-L <casl-l-bounces at mylist.net> on behalf of Mrs. Rocca <
> roccaj at brookfieldps.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 5:44:49 PM
> *To:* Valerie DiLorenzo
> *Cc:* casl-l at mylist.net
> *Subject:* Re: [CASL-L] research/citation tools--what is your school
> using?
>
>
>
> We have been Noodle Tools subscribers for many years. We looked at Easy
> Bib and rejected it because it did too much work for the students.
> Students could easily create an entire works cited list without ever
> actually opening or reading any sources.
>
>
>
> I don't like the way Noodle Tools works on an iPad but I find it reliable
> in every other way. (it works on an iPad, it is just more finicky and less
> consistent)
>
>
>
> I still stand by Noodle Tools as the best citation tool out there for
> teaching students to create their own citations.
>
> - Jennifer Rocca
> Brookfield High School
> Librarian
>
>
> On Jan 5, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Valerie DiLorenzo <vdilorenzo.rumsey at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Happy 2016 to All,
>
>
>
> Anyone who subscribes to EasyBib School Edition (paid version of EasyBib,
> not the free one) is aware of the fact that this platform will no longer be
> available after June 2016. The company "Imagine Easy" has changed to a
> platform called Scholar.
>
>
>
> I have some reservations about simply switching to the Imagine Easy
> Scholar platform. One big concern is that the Scholar extension (through
> Google) often creates citations wrong (with major mistakes). It's only as
> good as the metadata used to create it. After a citation is created,
> students can then edit it to fix the mistakes.
>
>
>
> Though Imagine Easy Scholar works well with the Google platform (this is a
> plus), in my opinion, Scholar doesn't do as good of a job "teaching" how to
> evaluate sources or showing how citations are created/built as the EasyBib
> School Edition platform did. Which brings me to another major concern:*
> even with a discount (44%) *for being an EasyBib SE subscriber, the price
> for Imagine Easy Scholar is three times as much as EasyBib SE.
>
>
>
> My question, therefore, is *what is everyone else using out there as a
> research platform to help your students become productive and ethical
> researchers? *In your answer, please include the grade levels you teach.
>
>
>
> I've been using EasyBib School Edition with grades 3 - 9 for about 4
> years. Before that, we were using NoodleTools with grades 5 - 9. (We made
> our switch before NoodleTools overhauled their platform.) We made the
> switch because, at the time, NoodleTools was not working well for our
> population.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> ~Valerie
>
>
>
> --
>
> Valerie DiLorenzo
>
> Library Media Specialist
>
> Rumsey Hall School
>
> 201 Romford Road
>
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