[CASL-L] Booleon search terms - do you teach them?

[Valerie DiLorenzo]

Mike & All,

I've used this site with younger students, but it's helpful for older
students too.

Fun and informative:
https://www.kidzsearch.com/boolify/


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On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 10:00 AM Mike McKenna <mmckenna at simsburyschools.net>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Hope you're well! Yes, here at Simsbury HS, I teach search strategies
> using Boolean operators to students in English and Social Studies classes,
> particularly Grade 10, and primarily using our subscription databases,
> rather than using a Google search.
>
> This infographic
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AtF_PHmnC4tBMLrxJyEHfy-JOvxhLSE6/view>(sorry,
> forgot where we sourced this from!) has been useful in illustrating the
> concept for students, using modified examples relevant to their performance
> task, as well as what Gale provides for search tips in their Advanced
> Search database pages:
>
> AND, OR, NOTUse Boolean Operators to Refine Your Search
>
> Boolean Operators (*AND, OR, NOT*) can be used to tell the search engine
> more specifically what you want it to do. These are also known as "logical"
> operators.
>
> If you are only using Boolean operators between two words (entered in
> either the same search box, or across two search rows in Advanced Search),
> then the Search Engine handles them as stated below. When you combine 3 or
> more terms, linked with Boolean operators, then the “Order of Operation”
> applies (see section at the end of this topic).
> Use AND to narrow your search
>
> If you put the word AND between your search terms, that tells the search
> engine to find only the documents that include all of the terms you
> connected with the term AND.
>
>    - *children and travel* finds documents that contain both terms,
>    *children* and *travel*, anywhere within the searched text.
>
> Use OR to broaden your search
>
> If you put the word OR between your search terms, that tells the search
> engine to find documents with any of the terms you connected with the term
> OR. This will get you get more results than if you connected your terms
> with AND.
>
>    - *postmortem or autopsy* finds documents that contain either
>    *postmortem* or *autopsy* or both. At least one of your terms must be
>    present. OR is good to use when searching for variant spellings or
>    synonymous terms.
>
> Use NOT to exclude words
>
> If you put the word NOT between two search terms, that tells the search
> engine to find documents with the first term as long as they don’t have the
> second term.
>
>    - *"benjamin franklin" not bache* finds documents that contain the
>    term *Benjamin Franklin*, but that do not contain the term *Bache*.
>    This would include documents that mention Benjamin Franklin, but not his
>    great-grandson, Benjamin Franklin Bache.
>
> Order of Operation
>
> When you create a search query with more than two terms and use two or
> more Boolean operators the search engine processes that query according to
> the precedence of the operators. The precedence is NOT, AND, OR. You can
> determine the precedence by using parentheses in the query.
>
> Whether the query is entered in one search box or spread across multiple
> rows in an advanced search query the processing looks like this:
>
> user enters: *schools AND guns OR violence*
>
> is searched as: *(schools AND guns) OR violence*
>
> and in a hypothetical products returns 769,000 articles. All the articles
> with *schools* and *guns* and all the articles that just contained
> *violence*.
>
> user enters: *schools AND (guns OR violence)*
>
> is searched as shown, and returns 25,700 articles that contain *schools* as
> well as either *guns* or *violence*.
>
> Note: Operators do not need to be capitalized. If you want to include the
> operators as search terms, enclose them in quotation marks (for example:
> "black and white photographs"). All examples are illustrative only and not
> specific to any one Gale resource.
>
> Good luck, and happy searching :)
>
> Mike
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 9:51 AM <casl-l-request at mylist.net> wrote:
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>>    1. Booleon search terms - do you teach them? (Loretta Sullivan)
>>    2. Re: Booleon search terms - do you teach them? (Cathy Andronik)
>>    3. Re: Booleon search terms - do you teach them? (Dawn M. Zillich)
>>    4. CASL WRAD sign-up - LAST CALL!
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>>    5. Re: Booleon search terms - do you teach them?
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Loretta Sullivan <b59lgian at mpspride.org>
>> To: CASL_L <casl-l at mylist.net>
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 12:19:28 -0500
>> Subject: [CASL-L] Booleon search terms - do you teach them?
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I wanted to know if you teach Booleon search terms (and,or, not) for more
>> effective searching when using keywords?  Can someone clarify for me (I
>> feel awful about not knowing) why when trying these search terms they do
>> not always work?  Are they only effective when using databases vs. using a
>> search engine to look something up?  My TIS and I were trying them in hopes
>> of helping students learn these strategies, but did not find anything that
>> worked the way we wanted when we tried them.  Am I missing something?
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Loretta Sullivan
>> Library Media Specialist
>> Bennet Academy
>> Manchester, CT
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>> accessible and wisest of counselors, and the most patient of teachers."
>> -Charles W. Eliot
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Cathy Andronik <cathyandronik at yahoo.com>
>> To: CASL_L <casl-l at mylist.net>, Loretta Sullivan <b59lgian at mpspride.org>
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 20:52:11 +0000 (UTC)
>> Subject: Re: [CASL-L] Booleon search terms - do you teach them?
>> I think Boolean searching works better in databases than it does on the
>> internet, just because of the way the two are set up to search.
>>
>> A high school English teacher called me in to help her class.  The
>> students were creating TED-type talks about the subject of their choosing.
>> They were required to include, I believe, at least three sources from
>> databases.  Many of the topics were VERY specific (along the lines of
>> "academic achievement of African American children growing up in urban
>> single-parent families")--things where databases sent them in wrong
>> directions very easily because of one inaccurate search term, and many hits
>> on the internet were anecdotal or short memoirs rather than solid facts and
>> statistics.  The teacher realized the students' questions were above her
>> expertise with our databases; I sat in on a research session for a few
>> minutes and realized that Boolean searching would help enormously.  That
>> assignment probably led to the most genuine appreciation I'd ever gotten
>> from our students.  I still use as an example the debate I had with a
>> student on a video clip she wanted to use for her report on . . . I forget
>> the details, something about the health effects of hydration.  She wanted
>> to use a Youtube clip of a guy in a tricked out convertible telling the
>> person behind the camera how much he was enjoying a drink of water.  I
>> asked what point she was trying to make with that particular video; her
>> point was more academic and health-centered, and I challenged car-guy's
>> credentials for reliability.  Interesting discussion.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Cathy Andronik
>> Retired (Brien McMahon HS, Norwalk)
>>
>> On Monday, 30 January 2023 at 11:20:11 am GMT-6, Loretta Sullivan <
>> b59lgian at mpspride.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I wanted to know if you teach Booleon search terms (and,or, not) for more
>> effective searching when using keywords?  Can someone clarify for me (I
>> feel awful about not knowing) why when trying these search terms they do
>> not always work?  Are they only effective when using databases vs. using a
>> search engine to look something up?  My TIS and I were trying them in hopes
>> of helping students learn these strategies, but did not find anything that
>> worked the way we wanted when we tried them.  Am I missing something?
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Loretta Sullivan
>> Library Media Specialist
>> Bennet Academy
>> Manchester, CT
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>> To: Loretta Sullivan <b59lgian at mpspride.org>, CASL_L <casl-l at mylist.net>
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 08:01:33 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [CASL-L] Booleon search terms - do you teach them?
>>
>> This is what I use when teaching students a better way to use Google if
>> they really don’t want to use Google Scholar:
>>
>>
>>
>> Searching specific Website:
>>
>> Use the following example shows how to search only within a single site:
>>
>>
>>
>> Example: *Lent site:http://romancatholicblog.typepad.com/
>> <http://romancatholicblog.typepad.com/>*
>>
>> *               Book Review site:nytimes.com <http://nytimes.com>*
>>
>>
>>
>> Searching topic in title:
>>
>> The query *intitle:term* restricts results to documents containing term
>> in the title.
>>
>>
>>
>> Example: *flu shot intitle:advice* will return documents that mention
>> the word “advice” in their titles, and mention the words “flu” and “shot”
>> anywhere in the document (title or not).
>>
>>
>>
>> Putting *intitle:* in front of every word in your query is equivalent to
>> putting *allintitle*: at the front of your query. In other words, *allintitle:
>> google search Tips*.
>>
>>
>>
>> Example *allintitle:death penalty catechism*
>>
>>
>>
>> Narrow or widen a search:
>>
>> Adding a plus or minus sign allows you to narrow or widen your search.
>>
>>
>>
>>             Examples: “*civil war” +US +history*
>>
>> *                              “civil war” +US +history -Wikipedia*
>>
>> *                              Cancer -Lukemia*
>>
>>
>>
>> Searching topic in inurl:
>>
>>             Example: *inurl:cancer*
>>
>>
>>
>> (Words in the Text) + Title, URL etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you want to find a webpage where one term appears in the text of that
>> page and another term appears elsewhere on the page, like the title or URL,
>> then type in that first term followed by intext:followed immediately by the
>> other term.
>>
>>
>>
>> Example: “*linear* *algebra” intext:google*
>>
>>
>>
>> Specific Document Types:
>>
>> Find results that are a file type, (presentations, images, documents,
>> etc).
>>
>> Example Search: "marketing strategies" filetype:ppt
>>
>> Ongoing research?
>> Set a Google alert so you get continuous updates. Visit Google News
>> Initiative.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>>
>>
>> Dawn M. Zillich, librarian
>>
>> St. Paul Catholic High School
>>
>>
>>
>> “For last year's words belong to last year's language. And next
>>
>> year's words await another voice.” ― T.S. Eliot, *Four Quartets*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CASL-L <casl-l-bounces at mylist.net> *On Behalf Of *Loretta
>> Sullivan
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2023 12:19 PM
>> *To:* CASL_L <casl-l at mylist.net>
>> *Subject:* [CASL-L] Booleon search terms - do you teach them?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> I wanted to know if you teach Booleon search terms (and,or, not) for more
>> effective searching when using keywords?  Can someone clarify for me (I
>> feel awful about not knowing) why when trying these search terms they do
>> not always work?  Are they only effective when using databases vs. using a
>> search engine to look something up?  My TIS and I were trying them in hopes
>> of helping students learn these strategies, but did not find anything that
>> worked the way we wanted when we tried them.  Am I missing something?
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>>
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>>
>>
>> Loretta Sullivan
>>
>> Library Media Specialist
>>
>> Bennet Academy
>>
>> Manchester, CT
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> To: Loretta Sullivan <b59lgian at mpspride.org>, CASL_L <casl-l at mylist.net>
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 14:51:29 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [CASL-L] Booleon search terms - do you teach them?
>> I've taught Boolean searching from middle school up to university
>> students. When I taught the concept to middle schoolers I had them stand up
>> or sit down based on the boolean operator. Examples:  everyone with jeans
>> AND sneakers stand up. Everyone with jeans OR sneakers stand up, etc. I
>> think the visual representation helped them to understand it a little
>> better.
>>
>>
>> Juliann T. Moskowitz
>>
>> Instruction and Information Literacy Librarian
>>
>> Wahlstrom Library
>>
>> University of Bridgeport
>>
>> Bridgeport, CT 06604
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* CASL-L <casl-l-bounces at mylist.net> on behalf of Loretta Sullivan
>> <b59lgian at mpspride.org>
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2023 12:19 PM
>> *To:* CASL_L <casl-l at mylist.net>
>> *Subject:* [CASL-L] Booleon search terms - do you teach them?
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I wanted to know if you teach Booleon search terms (and,or, not) for more
>> effective searching when using keywords?  Can someone clarify for me (I
>> feel awful about not knowing) why when trying these search terms they do
>> not always work?  Are they only effective when using databases vs. using a
>> search engine to look something up?  My TIS and I were trying them in hopes
>> of helping students learn these strategies, but did not find anything that
>> worked the way we wanted when we tried them.  Am I missing something?
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Loretta Sullivan
>> Library Media Specialist
>> Bennet Academy
>> Manchester, CT
>>
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