[MCOH-EH] Were the Dallas HCW's furloughed ?
Mark Catlin
mark.catlin at seiu.org
Wed Oct 15 17:36:32 PDT 2014
Thanks. I've asked CalOSHA and they view it as a requirement under the ATD standard. The ATD only applies in California
Mark
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On Oct 15, 2014, at 7:52 PM, Angeli Mancuso <a1mancus at sbch.org> wrote:
Mark,
Wow! Thank you for reminding me to review the ATD standard for this. Some great nuggets so as not to reinvent the wheel completely.
However, I wonder if the interpretation below of “pay full pay and benefits” is correct. I’m reading the ATD standard (h) (8) (B)
· “Where the PLHCP recommends precautionary removal…the employer shall maintain until the employee is determined to me noninfectious, the employee’s earnings, seniority, and all other employee right and benefits, including the employee’s right to his or her former job status, as if the employee had not been removed from his or her job or otherwise medically limited.”
The red text is obviously my addition as I can see where this is interpreted to mean “paid during leave” but couldn’t you argue that the ATD standard is really just saying the exposed employee has to come back to their position at the same rate of pay?
It’s a moot point for us as our facility is planning for a paid leave due to historic instances when we had to “furlough” someone due to a varicella exposure with negative titers and no vaccination records. However, I wouldn’t want to make it sound like this is a mandate.
CHS is having numerous meetings tomorrow shoring up our policies. I’ll share what I can afterwards.
Regards,
Angeli
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Employee Health & Safety Manager
Cottage Health System
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From: MCOH-EH [mailto:mcoh-eh-bounces at mylist.net] On Behalf Of Mark Catlin
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Heard from CDC source that healthcare workers on precautionary isolation in Texas were not going to be paid for the 21 days by the hospital. In California, the Cal/OSHA Aerosol Transmittable Disease (ATD) standard, which specifically covers Ebola as a droplet spread disease) requires healthcare employers to pay full pay and benefits during such leave.
Mark
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SEIU
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On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Johnson, Nancy (Tacoma) <NancyJohnson at fhshealth.org> wrote:
Does anyone know if the Dallas HCW's were furloughed while on a Temp. Monitoring Program?
Thank you
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Let me know if you did not get it is a teleconference.
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Subject: TOMORROW: Call with Officials from the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services on Ebola Preparedness
Preparing America's Nurses to Safely Care for a Patient with Ebola
What: Conference call with nurses across the United States and officials from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services to discuss protecting the health of nurses while safely caring for a patient with Ebola. Please share this invitation with members of your organization.
When: Thursday, October 16, 1:30 to 2:30 p.m. EDT
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What is the link for this webinar?
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This is the webinar tomorrow that I am aware of...same one?
Occupational Health Hot Topics: Ebola Update
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We are an outpatient center with clinics everywhere in the central, north east and west of the state as well as Urgen Care and ASC's.
We have the same concerns with the CDC. I would customize the CDC hospital checklist to your facilities.
We have created a nurse line triage, Urgent Care situation algorithm, and a center algorithm.
Amb. Surgery care is asking have you had travel and do you have a fever.
Because it is unknown the actual transmission, we know it is contact and droplet however the body fluids Can also be aerosolized, we will be using N.95 masks and hoods.
I would say, do what it takes to protect your patients and staff. Call your HEICS team, incident command now Rather than later.
CDC website is good, just customize those areas that do not apply.
There is a nurse call with the CDC tomorrow, has everyone received this information?
I will send if not.
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I wish this group would weigh in on the Ebola issue here!
This has caught many facilities off guard and administration, IC, Epidemiology, are scrambling to produce effective policies and procedures for protecting HCW with this outbreak.
The fact that the information going form the CDC is conflicted and still evolving makes me uneasy as to what should be the most effective treatment, protection, and information we can give our employees and patients.
If the group has anything to share, it would be most appreciated.
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 17:30:58 -0400
From: "Band, Michael DO" <MBand at watsonclinic.com>
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Subject: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
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I thought I would start the discussion on this topic. I am surprised how quiet we are.
Something about Ebola does not pass my "sniff test." I have always been disturbed that HCWs have been infected from patient care in Africa and now one of our HCWs has become infected. Are we missing something?
I told our committee reviewing Ebola planning I disagreed with the Ebola PPE removal process as recommended by CDC. They recommend removing gloves first and then removing rest of PPE with bare hand. Seems like double gloving or donning a new pair of gloves would be better, then last step removing second set of gloves.
Is the spread through contact source still apply? Are we missing something?
Michael Band DO, MS
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 17:52:33 -0400
From: Mark Catlin <mark.catlin at seiu.org>
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Thanks Michael for starting this discussion.
With the Ebola transmission to the nurse in Texas over the weekend, this issue requires discussion from groups like this one.
While some of our hospital employers are stepping up and trying to figure out the complex site specific procedures and policies to implement the CDC guidance for Ebola (or better), other hospitals are doing nothing or next to nothing to prepare. Without these site specific plans, no amount of training of front-line healthcare workers, no amount of care taken by workers or wearing of PPE will be effective.
Many lesson have been learned that could be useful to consider from those in the environmental field over the past 30 years regarding donning, wearing and working in and doffing of contaminated PPE and equipment.
I look forward to sharing good ideas and solutions and learning lessons from everyone.
Sincerely,
Mark Catlin
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On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Band, Michael DO <MBand at watsonclinic.com>
wrote:
> I thought I would start the discussion on this topic. I am surprised
> how quiet we are.
>
>
>
> Something about Ebola does not pass my ?sniff test.? I have always
> been disturbed that HCWs have been infected from patient care in
> Africa and now one of our HCWs has become infected. Are we missing something?
>
>
>
> I told our committee reviewing Ebola planning I disagreed with the
> Ebola PPE removal process as recommended by CDC. They recommend removing gloves
> first and then removing rest of PPE with bare hand. Seems like double
> gloving or donning a new pair of gloves would be better, then last
> step removing second set of gloves.
>
>
>
> Is the spread through contact source still apply? Are we missing something?
>
>
>
> Michael Band DO, MS
>
> Watson Clinic
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At Cincinnati Children's we are planning double gloving so that one set of gloves is removed at the end of the doffing
From: MCOH-EH [mailto:mcoh-eh-bounces at mylist.net] On Behalf Of Band, Michael DO
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 5:31 PM
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I thought I would start the discussion on this topic. I am surprised how quiet we are.
Something about Ebola does not pass my "sniff test." I have always been disturbed that HCWs have been infected from patient care in Africa and now one of our HCWs has become infected. Are we missing something?
I told our committee reviewing Ebola planning I disagreed with the Ebola PPE removal process as recommended by CDC. They recommend removing gloves first and then removing rest of PPE with bare hand. Seems like double gloving or donning a new pair of gloves would be better, then last step removing second set of gloves.
Is the spread through contact source still apply? Are we missing something?
Michael Band DO, MS
Watson Clinic
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Same at UCLA; monitor for donning, use and doffing; 2:1 nurse: patient ratio; CAPRs (Maxair) in ICU care team, dedicated ebola team, and probably N95 for others in addition to the rest of the full PPE. I noticed WHO has convened a group of about a dozen top experts to relook a the science; as I recall Peter Piot is chairing it, and I see CDC is relooking at best approach: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/10/ebola-texas-nurse-triggers-changes-battle-plan&k=NZz1SMMNIbmFChmIgSwv1Q%3D%3D%0A&r=k2S%2BsEODLFKnxUdiTFMmVIht4mmcmjaINO11HT3tCZ0%3D%0A&m=DHuukXpvK%2BZGw9oGo8FsUKNLlAbD7M1URi5QIDXSA8Q%3D%0A&s=42278bba5dd9380185f5731d25b4906fe0efc257b4e813303defbaeca2aae28e. This is one of those things we need to get right and learn from what's not working as we want.
T. Warner Hudson, MD FACOEM, FAAFP
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Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:51 PM
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At Cincinnati Children's we are planning double gloving so that one set of gloves is removed at the end of the doffing
From: MCOH-EH [mailto:mcoh-eh-bounces at mylist.net] On Behalf Of Band, Michael DO
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 5:31 PM
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Subject: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
I thought I would start the discussion on this topic. I am surprised how quiet we are.
Something about Ebola does not pass my "sniff test." I have always been disturbed that HCWs have been infected from patient care in Africa and now one of our HCWs has become infected. Are we missing something?
I told our committee reviewing Ebola planning I disagreed with the Ebola PPE removal process as recommended by CDC. They recommend removing gloves first and then removing rest of PPE with bare hand. Seems like double gloving or donning a new pair of gloves would be better, then last step removing second set of gloves.
Is the spread through contact source still apply? Are we missing something?
Michael Band DO, MS
Watson Clinic
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 21:52:47 -0700
From: "Johnson, Cathreen" <CaJohnson at coh.org>
To: "MCOH/EH" <mcoh-eh at mylist.net>
Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
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Hello,
Not sure about protocol with the list. May I forward these emails to my Infection Prevention team? Thank you for the discussion.
Thank you,
Cathreen Johnson FNPc
Employee Health
City of Hope
________________________________________
From: MCOH-EH [mcoh-eh-bounces+cajohnson=coh.org at mylist.net] On Behalf Of Hudson, T. Warner [TWHudson at mednet.ucla.edu]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:58 PM
To: MCOH/EH
Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
Same at UCLA; monitor for donning, use and doffing; 2:1 nurse: patient ratio; CAPRs (Maxair) in ICU care team, dedicated ebola team, and probably N95 for others in addition to the rest of the full PPE. I noticed WHO has convened a group of about a dozen top experts to relook a the science; as I recall Peter Piot is chairing it, and I see CDC is relooking at best approach: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/10/ebola-texas-nurse-triggers-changes-battle-plan&k=NZz1SMMNIbmFChmIgSwv1Q%3D%3D%0A&r=k2S%2BsEODLFKnxUdiTFMmVIht4mmcmjaINO11HT3tCZ0%3D%0A&m=DHuukXpvK%2BZGw9oGo8FsUKNLlAbD7M1URi5QIDXSA8Q%3D%0A&s=42278bba5dd9380185f5731d25b4906fe0efc257b4e813303defbaeca2aae28e. This is one of those things we need to get right and learn from what?s not working as we want.
T. Warner Hudson, MD FACOEM, FAAFP
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From: MCOH-EH [mailto:mcoh-eh-bounces at mylist.net] On Behalf Of Thrasher, Terri
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:51 PM
To: MCOH/EH
Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
At Cincinnati Children?s we are planning double gloving so that one set of gloves is removed at the end of the doffing
From: MCOH-EH [mailto:mcoh-eh-bounces at mylist.net] On Behalf Of Band, Michael DO
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 5:31 PM
To: 'MCOH/EH'
Subject: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
I thought I would start the discussion on this topic. I am surprised how quiet we are.
Something about Ebola does not pass my ?sniff test.? I have always been disturbed that HCWs have been infected from patient care in Africa and now one of our HCWs has become infected. Are we missing something?
I told our committee reviewing Ebola planning I disagreed with the Ebola PPE removal process as recommended by CDC. They recommend removing gloves first and then removing rest of PPE with bare hand. Seems like double gloving or donning a new pair of gloves would be better, then last step removing second set of gloves.
Is the spread through contact source still apply? Are we missing something?
Michael Band DO, MS
Watson Clinic
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:30:22 +0000
From: "Swift, Melanie" <melanie.swift at Vanderbilt.Edu>
To: MCOH/EH <mcoh-eh at mylist.net>
Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
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Yes, unless the person who shared expressly requests not to share. In which case they'd probably not post it!
Melanie Swift, MD
Medical Director, Vanderbilt Occupational Health Clinic occupationalhealth.vanderbilt.edu
Excuse any typos please - Sent from my iPad.
> On Oct 13, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Johnson, Cathreen <CaJohnson at coh.org> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Not sure about protocol with the list. May I forward these emails to my Infection Prevention team? Thank you for the discussion.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Cathreen Johnson FNPc
> Employee Health
> City of Hope
> ________________________________________
> From: MCOH-EH [mcoh-eh-bounces+cajohnson=coh.org at mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of Hudson, T. Warner [TWHudson at mednet.ucla.edu]
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:58 PM
> To: MCOH/EH
> Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
>
> Same at UCLA; monitor for donning, use and doffing; 2:1 nurse: patient ratio; CAPRs (Maxair) in ICU care team, dedicated ebola team, and probably N95 for others in addition to the rest of the full PPE. I noticed WHO has convened a group of about a dozen top experts to relook a the science; as I recall Peter Piot is chairing it, and I see CDC is relooking at best approach: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/10/ebola-texas-nurse-triggers-changes-battle-plan&k=NZz1SMMNIbmFChmIgSwv1Q%3D%3D%0A&r=k2S%2BsEODLFKnxUdiTFMmVIht4mmcmjaINO11HT3tCZ0%3D%0A&m=DHuukXpvK%2BZGw9oGo8FsUKNLlAbD7M1URi5QIDXSA8Q%3D%0A&s=42278bba5dd9380185f5731d25b4906fe0efc257b4e813303defbaeca2aae28e. This is one of those things we need to get right and learn from what?s not working as we want.
>
> T. Warner Hudson, MD FACOEM, FAAFP
> Medical Director, Occupational and Employee Health UCLA Health System
> and Campus Office 310.825.9146 Fax 310.206.4585 Pager 800.233.7231 ID
> 27132 E-mail twhudson at mednet.ucla.edu<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://mailto:twhudson%40mednet.ucla.edu&k=NZz1SMMNIbmFChmIgSwv1Q%3D%3D%0A&r=k2S%2BsEODLFKnxUdiTFMmVIht4mmcmjaINO11HT3tCZ0%3D%0A&m=DHuukXpvK%2BZGw9oGo8FsUKNLlAbD7M1URi5QIDXSA8Q%3D%0A&s=b97393e456f0fb11da2c8ec63589f6589f0d6b5a7a040b81c7773cf47d6f1b6d>
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> From: MCOH-EH [mailto:mcoh-eh-bounces at mylist.net] On Behalf Of
> Thrasher, Terri
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:51 PM
> To: MCOH/EH
> Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
>
> At Cincinnati Children?s we are planning double gloving so that one
> set of gloves is removed at the end of the doffing
>
> From: MCOH-EH [mailto:mcoh-eh-bounces at mylist.net] On Behalf Of Band,
> Michael DO
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 5:31 PM
> To: 'MCOH/EH'
> Subject: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
>
> I thought I would start the discussion on this topic. I am surprised how quiet we are.
>
> Something about Ebola does not pass my ?sniff test.? I have always been disturbed that HCWs have been infected from patient care in Africa and now one of our HCWs has become infected. Are we missing something?
>
> I told our committee reviewing Ebola planning I disagreed with the Ebola PPE removal process as recommended by CDC. They recommend removing gloves first and then removing rest of PPE with bare hand. Seems like double gloving or donning a new pair of gloves would be better, then last step removing second set of gloves.
>
> Is the spread through contact source still apply? Are we missing something?
>
> Michael Band DO, MS
> Watson Clinic
>
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 19:34:02 +0000
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Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] MCOH-EH Digest, Vol 247, Issue 14
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Cheryl,
There is also a good amount of info on the CT Dept of Public Health website. Our policies are a work in progress.
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Geoff Robinson PAC
MedWorks - Bristol Hospital
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From: MCOH-EH [mailto:mcoh-eh-bounces at mylist.net] On Behalf Of Kathy Dayvault
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:20 PM
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WHO has provided a guide for HC workers regarding appropriate PPE when caring for patients suspected of being infevted with Ebola. I am sure Emory Healthcare in Atlanta Ga would also share best practices with you
Kathy Dayvault RN BSN MPH COHN-S/CM
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From: "Marenick,Cheryl"
Date:10/15/2014 13:30 (GMT-06:00)
To: "'mcoh-eh at mylist.net'"
Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] MCOH-EH Digest, Vol 247, Issue 14
I wish this group would weigh in on the Ebola issue here!
This has caught many facilities off guard and administration, IC, Epidemiology, are scrambling to produce effective policies and procedures for protecting HCW with this outbreak.
The fact that the information going form the CDC is conflicted and still evolving makes me uneasy as to what should be the most effective treatment, protection, and information we can give our employees and patients.
If the group has anything to share, it would be most appreciated.
Cheryl J Marenick RN BSN MPH CN3
UCONN Health
Occupational Medicine/Employee Health Services
Farmington, CT 06033-6210
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4. Re: Ebola infected HCW (Hudson, T. Warner)
5. Re: Ebola infected HCW (Johnson, Cathreen)
6. Re: Ebola infected HCW (Swift, Melanie)
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 17:30:58 -0400
From: "Band, Michael DO" <MBand at watsonclinic.com>
To: 'MCOH/EH' <mcoh-eh at mylist.net>
Subject: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
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I thought I would start the discussion on this topic. I am surprised how quiet we are.
Something about Ebola does not pass my "sniff test." I have always been disturbed that HCWs have been infected from patient care in Africa and now one of our HCWs has become infected. Are we missing something?
I told our committee reviewing Ebola planning I disagreed with the Ebola PPE removal process as recommended by CDC. They recommend removing gloves first and then removing rest of PPE with bare hand. Seems like double gloving or donning a new pair of gloves would be better, then last step removing second set of gloves.
Is the spread through contact source still apply? Are we missing something?
Michael Band DO, MS
Watson Clinic
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 17:52:33 -0400
From: Mark Catlin <mark.catlin at seiu.org>
To: "MCOH/EH" <mcoh-eh at mylist.net>
Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
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Thanks Michael for starting this discussion.
With the Ebola transmission to the nurse in Texas over the weekend, this issue requires discussion from groups like this one.
While some of our hospital employers are stepping up and trying to figure out the complex site specific procedures and policies to implement the CDC guidance for Ebola (or better), other hospitals are doing nothing or next to nothing to prepare. Without these site specific plans, no amount of training of front-line healthcare workers, no amount of care taken by workers or wearing of PPE will be effective.
Many lesson have been learned that could be useful to consider from those in the environmental field over the past 30 years regarding donning, wearing and working in and doffing of contaminated PPE and equipment.
I look forward to sharing good ideas and solutions and learning lessons from everyone.
Sincerely,
Mark Catlin
Health and Safety Director
SEIU
1800 Massachusetts Ave NW
Washington, DC 20036
(202) 730 - 7290
(202) 436 - 0856 cell
mark.catlin at seiu.org
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Band, Michael DO <MBand at watsonclinic.com>
wrote:
> I thought I would start the discussion on this topic. I am surprised
> how quiet we are.
>
>
>
> Something about Ebola does not pass my ?sniff test.? I have always
> been disturbed that HCWs have been infected from patient care in
> Africa and now one of our HCWs has become infected. Are we missing something?
>
>
>
> I told our committee reviewing Ebola planning I disagreed with the
> Ebola PPE removal process as recommended by CDC. They recommend removing gloves
> first and then removing rest of PPE with bare hand. Seems like double
> gloving or donning a new pair of gloves would be better, then last
> step removing second set of gloves.
>
>
>
> Is the spread through contact source still apply? Are we missing something?
>
>
>
> Michael Band DO, MS
>
> Watson Clinic
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:51:01 +0000
From: "Thrasher, Terri" <Terri.Thrasher at cchmc.org>
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Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
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At Cincinnati Children's we are planning double gloving so that one set of gloves is removed at the end of the doffing
From: MCOH-EH [mailto:mcoh-eh-bounces at mylist.net] On Behalf Of Band, Michael DO
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 5:31 PM
To: 'MCOH/EH'
Subject: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
I thought I would start the discussion on this topic. I am surprised how quiet we are.
Something about Ebola does not pass my "sniff test." I have always been disturbed that HCWs have been infected from patient care in Africa and now one of our HCWs has become infected. Are we missing something?
I told our committee reviewing Ebola planning I disagreed with the Ebola PPE removal process as recommended by CDC. They recommend removing gloves first and then removing rest of PPE with bare hand. Seems like double gloving or donning a new pair of gloves would be better, then last step removing second set of gloves.
Is the spread through contact source still apply? Are we missing something?
Michael Band DO, MS
Watson Clinic
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:58:32 +0000
From: "Hudson, T. Warner" <TWHudson at mednet.ucla.edu>
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Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
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Same at UCLA; monitor for donning, use and doffing; 2:1 nurse: patient ratio; CAPRs (Maxair) in ICU care team, dedicated ebola team, and probably N95 for others in addition to the rest of the full PPE. I noticed WHO has convened a group of about a dozen top experts to relook a the science; as I recall Peter Piot is chairing it, and I see CDC is relooking at best approach: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/10/ebola-texas-nurse-triggers-changes-battle-plan&k=NZz1SMMNIbmFChmIgSwv1Q%3D%3D%0A&r=k2S%2BsEODLFKnxUdiTFMmVIht4mmcmjaINO11HT3tCZ0%3D%0A&m=DHuukXpvK%2BZGw9oGo8FsUKNLlAbD7M1URi5QIDXSA8Q%3D%0A&s=42278bba5dd9380185f5731d25b4906fe0efc257b4e813303defbaeca2aae28e. This is one of those things we need to get right and learn from what's not working as we want.
T. Warner Hudson, MD FACOEM, FAAFP
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From: MCOH-EH [mailto:mcoh-eh-bounces at mylist.net] On Behalf Of Thrasher, Terri
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:51 PM
To: MCOH/EH
Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
At Cincinnati Children's we are planning double gloving so that one set of gloves is removed at the end of the doffing
From: MCOH-EH [mailto:mcoh-eh-bounces at mylist.net] On Behalf Of Band, Michael DO
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 5:31 PM
To: 'MCOH/EH'
Subject: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
I thought I would start the discussion on this topic. I am surprised how quiet we are.
Something about Ebola does not pass my "sniff test." I have always been disturbed that HCWs have been infected from patient care in Africa and now one of our HCWs has become infected. Are we missing something?
I told our committee reviewing Ebola planning I disagreed with the Ebola PPE removal process as recommended by CDC. They recommend removing gloves first and then removing rest of PPE with bare hand. Seems like double gloving or donning a new pair of gloves would be better, then last step removing second set of gloves.
Is the spread through contact source still apply? Are we missing something?
Michael Band DO, MS
Watson Clinic
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 21:52:47 -0700
From: "Johnson, Cathreen" <CaJohnson at coh.org>
To: "MCOH/EH" <mcoh-eh at mylist.net>
Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
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Hello,
Not sure about protocol with the list. May I forward these emails to my Infection Prevention team? Thank you for the discussion.
Thank you,
Cathreen Johnson FNPc
Employee Health
City of Hope
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From: MCOH-EH [mcoh-eh-bounces+cajohnson=coh.org at mylist.net] On Behalf Of Hudson, T. Warner [TWHudson at mednet.ucla.edu]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:58 PM
To: MCOH/EH
Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
Same at UCLA; monitor for donning, use and doffing; 2:1 nurse: patient ratio; CAPRs (Maxair) in ICU care team, dedicated ebola team, and probably N95 for others in addition to the rest of the full PPE. I noticed WHO has convened a group of about a dozen top experts to relook a the science; as I recall Peter Piot is chairing it, and I see CDC is relooking at best approach: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/10/ebola-texas-nurse-triggers-changes-battle-plan&k=NZz1SMMNIbmFChmIgSwv1Q%3D%3D%0A&r=k2S%2BsEODLFKnxUdiTFMmVIht4mmcmjaINO11HT3tCZ0%3D%0A&m=DHuukXpvK%2BZGw9oGo8FsUKNLlAbD7M1URi5QIDXSA8Q%3D%0A&s=42278bba5dd9380185f5731d25b4906fe0efc257b4e813303defbaeca2aae28e. This is one of those things we need to get right and learn from what?s not working as we want.
T. Warner Hudson, MD FACOEM, FAAFP
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From: MCOH-EH [mailto:mcoh-eh-bounces at mylist.net] On Behalf Of Thrasher, Terri
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:51 PM
To: MCOH/EH
Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
At Cincinnati Children?s we are planning double gloving so that one set of gloves is removed at the end of the doffing
From: MCOH-EH [mailto:mcoh-eh-bounces at mylist.net] On Behalf Of Band, Michael DO
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 5:31 PM
To: 'MCOH/EH'
Subject: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
I thought I would start the discussion on this topic. I am surprised how quiet we are.
Something about Ebola does not pass my ?sniff test.? I have always been disturbed that HCWs have been infected from patient care in Africa and now one of our HCWs has become infected. Are we missing something?
I told our committee reviewing Ebola planning I disagreed with the Ebola PPE removal process as recommended by CDC. They recommend removing gloves first and then removing rest of PPE with bare hand. Seems like double gloving or donning a new pair of gloves would be better, then last step removing second set of gloves.
Is the spread through contact source still apply? Are we missing something?
Michael Band DO, MS
Watson Clinic
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:30:22 +0000
From: "Swift, Melanie" <melanie.swift at Vanderbilt.Edu>
To: MCOH/EH <mcoh-eh at mylist.net>
Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
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Yes, unless the person who shared expressly requests not to share. In which case they'd probably not post it!
Melanie Swift, MD
Medical Director, Vanderbilt Occupational Health Clinic occupationalhealth.vanderbilt.edu
Excuse any typos please - Sent from my iPad.
> On Oct 13, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Johnson, Cathreen <CaJohnson at coh.org> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Not sure about protocol with the list. May I forward these emails to my Infection Prevention team? Thank you for the discussion.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Cathreen Johnson FNPc
> Employee Health
> City of Hope
> ________________________________________
> From: MCOH-EH [mcoh-eh-bounces+cajohnson=coh.org at mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of Hudson, T. Warner [TWHudson at mednet.ucla.edu]
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:58 PM
> To: MCOH/EH
> Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
>
> Same at UCLA; monitor for donning, use and doffing; 2:1 nurse: patient ratio; CAPRs (Maxair) in ICU care team, dedicated ebola team, and probably N95 for others in addition to the rest of the full PPE. I noticed WHO has convened a group of about a dozen top experts to relook a the science; as I recall Peter Piot is chairing it, and I see CDC is relooking at best approach: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/10/ebola-texas-nurse-triggers-changes-battle-plan&k=NZz1SMMNIbmFChmIgSwv1Q%3D%3D%0A&r=k2S%2BsEODLFKnxUdiTFMmVIht4mmcmjaINO11HT3tCZ0%3D%0A&m=DHuukXpvK%2BZGw9oGo8FsUKNLlAbD7M1URi5QIDXSA8Q%3D%0A&s=42278bba5dd9380185f5731d25b4906fe0efc257b4e813303defbaeca2aae28e. This is one of those things we need to get right and learn from what?s not working as we want.
>
> T. Warner Hudson, MD FACOEM, FAAFP
> Medical Director, Occupational and Employee Health UCLA Health System
> and Campus Office 310.825.9146 Fax 310.206.4585 Pager 800.233.7231 ID
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> From: MCOH-EH [mailto:mcoh-eh-bounces at mylist.net] On Behalf Of
> Thrasher, Terri
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:51 PM
> To: MCOH/EH
> Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
>
> At Cincinnati Children?s we are planning double gloving so that one
> set of gloves is removed at the end of the doffing
>
> From: MCOH-EH [mailto:mcoh-eh-bounces at mylist.net] On Behalf Of Band,
> Michael DO
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 5:31 PM
> To: 'MCOH/EH'
> Subject: [MCOH-EH] Ebola infected HCW
>
> I thought I would start the discussion on this topic. I am surprised how quiet we are.
>
> Something about Ebola does not pass my ?sniff test.? I have always been disturbed that HCWs have been infected from patient care in Africa and now one of our HCWs has become infected. Are we missing something?
>
> I told our committee reviewing Ebola planning I disagreed with the Ebola PPE removal process as recommended by CDC. They recommend removing gloves first and then removing rest of PPE with bare hand. Seems like double gloving or donning a new pair of gloves would be better, then last step removing second set of gloves.
>
> Is the spread through contact source still apply? Are we missing something?
>
> Michael Band DO, MS
> Watson Clinic
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