[MCOH-EH] [EXTERNAL] Re: blood, oral secretion and hair collection for screening

Nancy Rodway nrodway at hotmail.com
Thu Apr 5 08:03:31 PDT 2018


Urine alcohol has a reasonable equivalent to breath alcohol...and can be considered as an alternative since you are doing urine anyway.
Nancy
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Karen – I assume from the question this is for unregulated testing?



For saliva testing, here would be no reason you could not use standard STT procedures as outlined in the CFR. Having BATs/STTs trained under federal protocol is good practice for unregulated testing programs because the protocols ensure integrity of the results (and give you a leg to stand on if an adverse employment action were challenged).



The advisability of blood collection will depend upon your employer policies and state regulations, and it cannot be used for routine DOT screens of course. I disagree with Dr. Rodway on the “assault” characterization – if legal in your state and supported by thoughtful policy, one could certainly use blood alcohol in non-regulated testing – for example reasonable suspicion with shy lung, or if you don’t have ability to do BATs. And actually there are states (Minnesota being one) that prohibit employers collecting breath alcohol on the premises, but will allow blood testing in a lab. Assuming you have collectors already trained in phlebotomy, you could overlay the chain of custody procedures as you would use for a urine collection. Work with your lab to see if they support chain of custody and request they provide a CCF.



The lab you are using for the hair testing likely has their own collection protocol. There is training available for that if you decide to collect your own – the lab may be able to point you to training.



Melanie



Melanie Swift, MD
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Division of Preventive, Occupational, and Aerospace Medicine

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Actually only Matrix permitted in Maryland - also required by FRA as post accident



Natalie P.  Hartenbaum, MD, MPH, FACOEM
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OccuMedix
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On Apr 5, 2018, at 10:41 AM, Nancy Rodway <nrodway at hotmail.com<mailto:nrodway at hotmail.com>> wrote:



BLOOD alcohol????  That is regarded as assault

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Good Morning,

I am trying to write protocols for blood alcohol/marijuana collection, oral secretion and hair collection for drug screening.  Does anyone have protocols already created that I could use as a guide?

Thank you in advance!

Karen



Karen Morelli RN, BSN, Clinical Manager

WorkHealth LLC

973-7382

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