[MCOH-EH] Incompletely Vaccinated HepB & Immunity Titers
Leslie Thompson
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Wed Jul 11 14:35:49 PDT 2018
We do the same. Because CDC recommends otherwise we took it to our ID group for approval. I understand the CDC recommendation to ensure long term protection, but it is costly to repeat doses on previously vaccinated employees. For those that are ”certain” of their history of vaccine, we accept the positive titer. Especially post-exposure. A false positive anti-HBs is unlikely given the history of vaccination. CDC provides great guidance and we faithfully follow most of it. If you look at post-exposure recommendations, even UCSF clinical consultation center has differed in their post-exposure recommendations and cites the studies they base their difference of opinion on. I suggest taking to your ID for their input as you need organizational support in whatever approach you take.
Leslie
Leslie Thompson, RN, MSN, ANP
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We utilize the attached guidance to decide what to do for situations like these, and have found it very helpful. It does address the situations you referred to below. Having said that, in many instances employees who know they had the 3 vaccines in the past (but have no proof) and have a positive titer, sometimes decline the second series. We would check their titer again if they are exposed to an unknown source or positive Hep B source, to ensure they are protected at the time, and treat accordingly using “table 1”.
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Sara Seeburger RN, BSN
Director Occupational Health
Centura Health
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Centennial, CO 80112
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Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] Incompletely Vaccinated HepB & Immunity Titers
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I may be missing something, so ask for enlightenment. If someone comes in knowing that they had the 3 series of HepB vaccine and you receive a positive HepBSAb titer on your pre-hire testing, why would you give a repeat series if the person cannot produce written documentation of the vaccines? I received my vaccines many years ago and the institution is no longer available to ask for records, nor did we think of that at the time. Would not the positive titer itself suffice for proof of immunity? I have not been asked in the past by any employer or hospital for proof of vaccine, just proof of immunity.
And what do you do with a person who doesn't remember if they had ever been vaccinated (happens more times than I can count), yet has a sufficient HepBSAb titer? It doesn't mean that they never received the series. Then, too, what do you do if the person received two vaccines only, but has a significantly positive titer? Why would you give them the third, especially if it had been a while since the first two? For example, I became significantly symptomatic after my second vaccine (OK, it WAS in the stone ages at the early start of vaccinations and they weren't as refined as they are curently), so a titer was done prior to getting the third. I had a high Ab titer, so it was decided that I had been properly immunized and that the risks of having the third were outweighed by the possible of a worsened reaction. BTW, I had a documented 0 titer prior to the vaccine series.
Just curious.
Stuart A. Sandler, DO
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We require documentation of 3 Hep B vaccs AND positive titer to ensure life long immunity as recommended by CDC. We start the series over if they don't have documentation and only a titer. If documentation and no titer, we draw a titer.
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