[MCOH-EH] [EXTERNAL] Re: Flu Vaccine Status Indicators

PRATER, DEANNA deanna.prater at bayareahospital.org
Wed Oct 9 13:40:38 PDT 2019


The vaccinate or mask policy is purely for Infection Control.

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I think an indication of policy compliance should be adequate for occupational purposes, and need not indicate vaccination status. While it may not technically be a HIPAA violation, it is private information (medical/religious exemption, vaccination, declination, whatever meets compliance criteria) and really shouldn’t be necessary to share with patients and coworkers. Masks may be worn for a variety of reasons (e.g. afebrile respiratory symptoms, even a cold sore) and the use of a mask needn’t indicate vaccination status. That said, I do think that blanket “vaccinate or mask” policies are more about coercion than infection control. Probably legal, doesn’t make it a good idea.
Also just my 2 cents.
Melanie Swift, MD, M.P.H.
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On Oct 9, 2019, at 3:16 PM, Cockrum, MD David S <dcockrum at frhs.org<mailto:dcockrum at frhs.org>> wrote:

I’m not a lawyer, and I haven’t stayed at a Holiday Inn Express recently, but…I tend to agree with Cathy’s legal interpretation. The badge sticker is related to activities required for employment, which is essentially outside the sphere of HIPAA. If HIPAA were applied in its purest form, we couldn’t ask non-immunized employees to wear masks since this would also be an indicator of a personal medical choice.  Additionally flu shots are a vital part of the Infection Control program, which is a standard related to protecting public health – again, beyond the scope of HIPAA.

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Deb,

That is interesting.  Our HR employee rights lawyer told us that this is not a HIPPA violation.  We use different colored stickers with the year on them to indicate vaccination and declination (without  the wording of “I got my flu shot” on them).  Our policy states that they have to have a sticker by Dec 1 and they must be placed on the front of the badge for identification of compliance.

Cathy

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Hello Anne
Several years ago legal counsel at another medical center in NH indicated that placing a sticker on an ID badge for flu vaccination was not a great idea since this is a public acknowledgment of individual medical information and could be challenged as a HIPAA violation regardless of facility policies.
Just a thought.

Deb Sampson



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Hello,

We recently transitioned to a influenza vaccine policy that requires masking for non-vaccinated health care personnel.  We use badge stickers as status indicators.  I am curious how others have made this work.  We are a regional medical center with multiple, off-site primary care and specialty practices.  We have many non-employed credentialed providers who participate in this program.

Flu vaccine is provided in Employee Health Services and department-based, "Flu Vaccine Ambassadors".  However, there are so many others that vaccinate elsewhere, or are in departments without an Ambassador.

We have not been able to identify an efficient means to deploy stickers. Your experiences are welcomed.

Anne




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