[MCOH-EH] OSHA form for students

Deborah a Sampson da.sampson at yahoo.com
Sat Mar 20 15:54:41 PDT 2021

Goodness…..isn’t there a moral/ethical rationale to protect all persons who provide any  service in a facility regardless of (often somewhat arbitrary) employee/student/contractor designations?

When we see Admins, physicians, and managers  receiving millions in “bonuses”  isn’t it a bit disingenuous to even question who gets protected and who doesn’t.
Just my 2 cent. 
Deb Sampson

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From: Philip Harber
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2021 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] OSHA form for students

Another opinion-While OSHA 1910.134 may not apply to "non-employees", many feel it is not a good practice to have two people working side-by-side, one of whom benefits from protections and the other does not. Also, as noted, the distinction between student and employee is sometimes ambiguous.

Incidentally, these issues are discussed in a new book we will be releasing in several months on Occupational Health in Higher Education and Research Institutions. This developed from an MCOH project, and most of the authors of this 74 chapter book are active in MCOH. It will discuss both the clinical/technical and the programmatic issues for this industry. A high proportion of the issues for this industry overlap considerably with those of Medical Center occupational health.

Phil Harber

Philip Harber MD MPH
email:  philharber at gmail.com or pharber at email.arizona.edu 
Office Phone: 520-626-1263

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 7:24 PM Smith, Kevin <kmsmith at phoebehealth.com> wrote:

My thought would be to require it, but I would have the college be responsible for doing it (co-employment issues), of have it clearly spelled out in the contract/memorandum of understanding, that they are responsible for it, but they are contracting you to do it, and paying for the services. Might want to discuss with your organizations legal dept to avoid issues setting it up.

Good luck.

From: MCOH-EH <mcoh-eh-bounces at mylist.net> on behalf of Cockrum, MD David S <dcockrum at frhs.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 4:15 PM
To: MCOH-EH <mcoh-eh at mylist.net>
Subject: [MCOH-EH] OSHA form for students 
Fellow Medical Occ Health experts-
Do you require students to complete the OSHA Respirator Questionnaire when they are mask fitted for rotating in your facilities? My inclination is to do it as it is tied to successful fitting of the N-95 respirator, but I was wondering if anyone has ever found any legitimate exemption or waiver for students (that are not sponsored by your facility, i.e. from a local college).


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