[MCOH-EH] Flu shots

Charles Hackett dickenshackett at gmail.com
Thu Sep 5 11:09:30 PDT 2024
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Thank you all very much

On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 1:10 PM Deanna Prater via MCOH-EH <mcoh-eh at mylist.net>
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> Flu shots are not mandated at our facility.  For anyone who does not
> receive a flu shot, if our region hits high level of prevalence, then all
> unvaccinated staff will be required to mask.  This works for us.
>
> Deanna Prater BSN, RN, CPHQ
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>    1.  Flu Shots (Charles Hackett)
>    2. Re:  [External]  Flu Shots (Behrman, Amy)
>    3. Re:  [External]  Flu Shots (Leibu, Rachel)
>    4. Re:  [External] Flu Shots (Behrman, Amy)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 06:54:31 -0400
> From: Charles Hackett <dickenshackett at gmail.com>
> To: "MCOH/EH" <mcoh-eh at mylist.net>
> Subject: [MCOH-EH] Flu Shots
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> Good morning.
> Our health system had historically allowed employees to opt out of
> receiving the flu shot and mask.
> In 2022 they decided that any new employee would need to be vaccinated
> against the flu unless there was a medical exemption.
> They allowed the employees that were hired prior to 2022 to continue to be
> able to opt out.
> Our head of HR would like to allow employees to opt out and not have it
> mandated.
> EOHS is pushing back with data and enthusiasm.
> What is your policy for the flu shot?
> Is it mandated for all employees?
> Is it mandated for patient facing employees?
> Thanks
> Charlie
> *Charles D Hackett, MD, MPH*
> Chief Community and Family Medicine, Rhode Island Hospital
> Clinical Assistant Professor of Family Medicine, Brown University
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 03:27:16 +0000
> From: "Behrman, Amy" <behrman at pennmedicine.upenn.edu>
> To: MCOH-EH <mcoh-eh at mylist.net>
> Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] [External]  Flu Shots
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> We continue to mandate annual seasonal influenza vaccination for all HCP,
> except for those with approved medical or religious exemptions.  Amy
>
> Amy J Behrman, MD, FACP, FACOEM
> Division Chief, Occupational Medicine
> Professor, Perelman School of Medicine
> University of Pennsylvania
> 3400 Spruce St
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/3400+Spruce+St+%0D%0APhiladelphia,+PA+19104?entry=gmail&source=g>
> Philadelphia, PA
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/3400+Spruce+St+%0D%0APhiladelphia,+PA+19104?entry=gmail&source=g>
> 19104
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/3400+Spruce+St+%0D%0APhiladelphia,+PA+19104?entry=gmail&source=g>
> ________________________________
> From: MCOH-EH <mcoh-eh-bounces+behrman=pennmedicine.upenn.edu at mylist.net>
> on behalf of Charles Hackett <dickenshackett at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2024 6:54 AM
> To: MCOH/EH <mcoh-eh at mylist.net>
> Subject: [External] [MCOH-EH] Flu Shots
>
> Good morning.
> Our health system had historically allowed employees to opt out of
> receiving the flu shot and mask.
> In 2022 they decided that any new employee would need to be vaccinated
> against the flu unless there was a medical exemption.
> They allowed the employees that were hired prior to 2022 to continue to be
> able to opt out.
> Our head of HR would like to allow employees to opt out and not have it
> mandated.
> EOHS is pushing back with data and enthusiasm.
> What is your policy for the flu shot?
> Is it mandated for all employees?
> Is it mandated for patient facing employees?
> Thanks
> Charlie
> Charles D Hackett, MD, MPH
> Chief Community and Family Medicine, Rhode Island Hospital
> Clinical Assistant Professor of Family Medicine, Brown University
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> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 13:21:33 +0000
> From: "Leibu, Rachel" <Rachel.Leibu at atlantichealth.org>
> To: MCOH-EH <mcoh-eh at mylist.net>
> Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] [External]  Flu Shots
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> We also follow the process Amy mentions below.
>
> Rachel Leibu, MD, MBA, MS, FACOEM
> Medical Director Occupational Medicine Services
> Atlantic Health System
> Clinical Assistant Professor, Sidney Kimmel Medical College
> at Thomas Jefferson University
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> Office 973-829-4277
> Cell 973-886-6708
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> From: MCOH-EH <mcoh-eh-bounces at mylist.net> On Behalf Of Behrman, Amy via
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> Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] [External] Flu Shots
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> We continue to mandate annual seasonal influenza vaccination for all HCP,
> except for those with approved medical or religious exemptions.  Amy
>
> Amy J Behrman, MD, FACP, FACOEM
> Division Chief, Occupational Medicine
> Professor, Perelman School of Medicine
> University of Pennsylvania
> 3400 Spruce St
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/3400+Spruce+St+%0D%0APhiladelphia,+PA+19104?entry=gmail&source=g>
> Philadelphia, PA
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/3400+Spruce+St+%0D%0APhiladelphia,+PA+19104?entry=gmail&source=g>
> 19104
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/3400+Spruce+St+%0D%0APhiladelphia,+PA+19104?entry=gmail&source=g>
> ________________________________
> From: MCOH-EH <mcoh-eh-bounces+behrman=pennmedicine.upenn.edu at mylist.net
> <mailto:mcoh-eh-bounces+behrman=pennmedicine.upenn.edu at mylist.net>> on
> behalf of Charles Hackett <dickenshackett at gmail.com<mailto:
> dickenshackett at gmail.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2024 6:54 AM
> To: MCOH/EH <mcoh-eh at mylist.net<mailto:mcoh-eh at mylist.net>>
> Subject: [External] [MCOH-EH] Flu Shots
>
> Good morning.
> Our health system had historically allowed employees to opt out of
> receiving the flu shot and mask.
> In 2022 they decided that any new employee would need to be vaccinated
> against the flu unless there was a medical exemption.
> They allowed the employees that were hired prior to 2022 to continue to be
> able to opt out.
> Our head of HR would like to allow employees to opt out and not have it
> mandated.
> EOHS is pushing back with data and enthusiasm.
> What is your policy for the flu shot?
> Is it mandated for all employees?
> Is it mandated for patient facing employees?
> Thanks
> Charlie
> Charles D Hackett, MD, MPH
> Chief Community and Family Medicine, Rhode Island Hospital
> Clinical Assistant Professor of Family Medicine, Brown University
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 14:42:49 +0000
> From: "Behrman, Amy" <behrman at pennmedicine.upenn.edu>
> To: Charles Hackett <dickenshackett at gmail.com>
> Cc: MCOH-EH <mcoh-eh at mylist.net>
> Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] [External] Flu Shots
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> Yes, at this point, HR determines religious exemption approvals, and we
> thankfully only deal with medical requests
>
>
> Amy
> On Sep 5, 2024, at 9:21?AM, Charles Hackett <dickenshackett at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> ?
> Thank you very much
> As an aside is it HR that determines the religious exemptions?
> EOHS stays away from any discussion and only considers medical exemptions
> Charlie
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 11:28?PM Behrman, Amy via MCOH-EH <
> mcoh-eh at mylist.net<mailto:mcoh-eh at mylist.net>> wrote:
> We continue to mandate annual seasonal influenza vaccination for all HCP,
> except for those with approved medical or religious exemptions.  Amy
>
> Amy J Behrman, MD, FACP, FACOEM
> Division Chief, Occupational Medicine
> <
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/3400+Spruce+St+%0D%0A+%0D%0APhiladelphia,+PA+19104?entry=gmail&source=g
> >
> Professor, Perelman School of Medicine
> University of Pennsylvania
> 3400 Spruce St
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/3400+Spruce+St?entry=gmail&source=g><
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/3400+Spruce+St+%0D%0A+%0D%0APhiladelphia,+PA+19104?entry=gmail&source=g
> >
> Philadelphia, PA<
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/3400+Spruce+St+%0D%0A+%0D%0APhiladelphia,+PA+19104?entry=gmail&source=g>
> 19104<
> https://www.google.com/maps/search/3400+Spruce+St+%0D%0A+%0D%0APhiladelphia,+PA+19104?entry=gmail&source=g
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> ________________________________
> From: MCOH-EH <mcoh-eh-bounces+behrman=pennmedicine.upenn.edu at mylist.net
> <mailto:pennmedicine.upenn.edu at mylist.net>> on behalf of Charles Hackett <
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> To: MCOH/EH <mcoh-eh at mylist.net<mailto:mcoh-eh at mylist.net>>
> Subject: [External] [MCOH-EH] Flu Shots
>
> Good morning.
> Our health system had historically allowed employees to opt out of
> receiving the flu shot and mask.
> In 2022 they decided that any new employee would need to be vaccinated
> against the flu unless there was a medical exemption.
> They allowed the employees that were hired prior to 2022 to continue to be
> able to opt out.
> Our head of HR would like to allow employees to opt out and not have it
> mandated.
> EOHS is pushing back with data and enthusiasm.
> What is your policy for the flu shot?
> Is it mandated for all employees?
> Is it mandated for patient facing employees?
> Thanks
> Charlie
> Charles D Hackett, MD, MPH
> Chief Community and Family Medicine, Rhode Island Hospital
> Clinical Assistant Professor of Family Medicine, Brown University
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