Thank you Kathleen! Really appreciate it the clarification – very helpful
Maria
Maria C. Lanzi, MS, MPH, ANP-BC, COHN-S, CTH
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Hi Maria,
You're correct that measles IgG retest results from a state public health lab would not be available within the 72 hour window for MMR PEP, and there is no harm in giving MMR to an immune person without contraindications
for the vaccine. However, knowing the true measles immunity status of an exposed HCW is even more important for determining whether that HCW needs work exclusion, or even quarantine. Anytime a measles contact reports a history of measles immunization
or disease but is measles IgG negative at a commercial lab, we always retest in the state lab to determine whether other public health interventions are necessary.
The main point I wanted to make is that commercial measles IgG testing can be falsely negative, and a negative result does not necessarily mean that the tested person is susceptible to measles. It's also important
to know that people with two documented doses of MMR or who are measles IgG positive have been infected with measles so exposed HCWs who are presumed to be immune to measles should be advised to monitor themselves for measles symptoms, especially prodromal
symptoms, and self-isolate immediately if any occur. We have had exposed HCWs who were presumed to be immune to measles develop measles, continue to work while symptomatic, and expose others because they didn't think they could develop measles. Thanks, Kathy
Kathleen Harriman
California Department of Public Health
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Kathleen,
Thank you for that discussion. The issue for those of us in the field however, is that state testing, in most cases, doesn't come back until after the 3 day window for prophylaxis vaccination in the event
of a true negative. So I would follow Larry Budnick comments as noted below as the "real world" will often impact decision making.
Maria
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CDC does not recommend serologic testing for measles, mumps or rubella for employees with two documented doses of MMR vaccine (past or present). If such employees are inadvertently tested and found to be
measles IgG negative or equivocal, CDC recommends trusting the vaccine history rather than the serologic results, and considering such employees presumptively immune to measles.
What is important to know, and I don't think is well known, is that commercial measles IgG testing is often not sensitive enough to identify people who would mount an adequate immune response to measles if
they were exposed.
In California, if a HCW (or any other person) is exposed to measles and it is likely that they have received MMR vaccine but they are measles IgG negative or equivocal at a commercial lab, we ask that the
blood specimen be sent for retesting at our state laboratory where it is almost always IgG positive.
If a HCW is actually exposed to measles, we do not consider birth before 1957 adequate proof of immunity, and would want such HCWs tested for measles IgG. Similarly, we would want to retest exposed HCWs with
a history of being measles IgG negative or equivocal after a history of two doses of MMR vaccine. If either category of HCW was then tested at a commercial lab and found to be measles IgG negative or equivocal, we would request retesting at our state lab to
determine their true measles immune status.
In our experience, falsely measles IgG negative or equivocal results are not uncommon, and we don't want to furlough or quarantine people unnecessarily.
Kathleen Harriman
California Department of Public Health
Richmond CA
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Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 01:28:20 +0000
From: "Leibu, Rachel" <Rachel.Leibu@atlantichealth.org<mailto:Rachel.Leibu@atlantichealth.org>>
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Subject: [MCOH-EH] Measles Prevention in Non-immune Appropriately Vaccinated Healthcare Employees
HI Everyone,
With the ever growing measles outbreak, how are you handling those employees who have appropriate proof of vaccination for measles but have a negative measles titer post vaccination. What are you doing for
this cohort of employees both prophylactically and in the event of an actual measles exposure?
Rachel Leibu, MD, MBA, MS, FACOEM
Medical Director Occupational Medicine Services Atlantic Health System
973-829-4277
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From: Lawrence Budnick <budnicla@njms.rutgers.edu<mailto:budnicla@njms.rutgers.edu>>
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Subject: Re: [MCOH-EH] Measles Prevention in Non-immune Appropriately Vaccinated Healthcare Employees
Attached is the guidance document from our state health department. Based on it and measles exposure incidents on our campus in 2013 and 2014, we would give a third dose of vaccine and retiter in 6-8 weeks,
to help guide future potential exposures. It is possible that the negative titer the person had was taken long after the 2nd measles vaccination. In addition, as the state guidance notes several times, "Extra doses of MMR are not harmful" as long as there
are no contraindications.
Lawrence D. Budnick, MD, MPH
Professor of Medicine
Director, Occupational Medicine Service
Rutgers University - New Jersey Medical School
65 Bergen Street, Suite GA-167, Newark, NJ 07107 tel 973.972.2900 fax 973.972.2904